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		<title>By: Jessi</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;God…dammit, I’m convinced the guy had that speech prewritten and practiced.&quot;    


You always know how to end a story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;God…dammit, I’m convinced the guy had that speech prewritten and practiced.&#8221;    </p>
<p>You always know how to end a story.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1104</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 13:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keith, to start off with, the above writing is entirely fictional (&#039;For Writing&#039;s Sake&#039;).  More to the point, on what basis is it sensible for I (we) to maintain an openness to any of the doctrines of Christianity?  As far as I can tell, there exists no legitimate reason to grant credence to any of its claims or mandates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keith, to start off with, the above writing is entirely fictional (&#8216;For Writing&#8217;s Sake&#8217;).  More to the point, on what basis is it sensible for I (we) to maintain an openness to any of the doctrines of Christianity?  As far as I can tell, there exists no legitimate reason to grant credence to any of its claims or mandates.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-1067</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 20:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be careful guys, I think your becoming as close minded to the opinions of Christians as the Christians are close minded to your opinions.  Remember, hypocrisy is a double edged sword.  We become what we hate.  You can be just as abrasive in you proclamation of non-belief as others are in their proclamation of belief.

1.  They knocked on your door and asked your permission to speak with you privately in your home.

2.  You could have refused.

3.  You asked no permission to portray your negative comments about them on the internet.

4.  They were given no option as to wether or not they wanted to be participants in this forum.

It only stands to reason that obnoxious behavior might be more common than you think, and that an individual can be arrogant, inconsiderate, and hypocritical without having any religious beliefs whatsoever.  

I guess all humans, by nature, are less than perfect.  Thank you for pointing that out to the rest of us hypocrites.  

Now If you don&#039;t mind, I am going to get back to my search for the hope of all mankind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be careful guys, I think your becoming as close minded to the opinions of Christians as the Christians are close minded to your opinions.  Remember, hypocrisy is a double edged sword.  We become what we hate.  You can be just as abrasive in you proclamation of non-belief as others are in their proclamation of belief.</p>
<p>1.  They knocked on your door and asked your permission to speak with you privately in your home.</p>
<p>2.  You could have refused.</p>
<p>3.  You asked no permission to portray your negative comments about them on the internet.</p>
<p>4.  They were given no option as to wether or not they wanted to be participants in this forum.</p>
<p>It only stands to reason that obnoxious behavior might be more common than you think, and that an individual can be arrogant, inconsiderate, and hypocritical without having any religious beliefs whatsoever.  </p>
<p>I guess all humans, by nature, are less than perfect.  Thank you for pointing that out to the rest of us hypocrites.  </p>
<p>Now If you don&#8217;t mind, I am going to get back to my search for the hope of all mankind.</p>
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		<title>By: existential blues</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-55</link>
		<dc:creator>existential blues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 18:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Are you one of those people...&quot;

One of THOSE people. One those evil/stupid/asking-for-a-beating people.

Evolution (no matter how much the agents of obfuscation shit on the word, is not the issue. Science is beside the point. Whether true or false, it does not make their mythology true. They have no evidence in support of their creation myth. Their myth has no more standing than that of the many other religion&#039;s creation myths.

They must show that everything we observe (astrophysical, geological, biological, etc. data) is wrong in order for their myth to have the possibility of being right; trashing science is enough for many fundamentalists, after they&#039;ve already made up their mind based on the faith they were spoon-fed by their families and culture.

The best response would might be to tell the itinerant Christian brainwashed would-be brainwashers about the truth of Hinduism/Polytheism/whatever. It makes as much sense as their mythology.

You can also hit them with biblical contradictions, which are legion. The door-to-door people you meet will likely not be well-versed in the bible, but it might give them something to think about in the future.

Rather than wasting their time knocking on doors, the proselytizers could be out doing good works (feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, etc.). That is, if they weren&#039;t hypocrites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Are you one of those people&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>One of THOSE people. One those evil/stupid/asking-for-a-beating people.</p>
<p>Evolution (no matter how much the agents of obfuscation shit on the word, is not the issue. Science is beside the point. Whether true or false, it does not make their mythology true. They have no evidence in support of their creation myth. Their myth has no more standing than that of the many other religion&#8217;s creation myths.</p>
<p>They must show that everything we observe (astrophysical, geological, biological, etc. data) is wrong in order for their myth to have the possibility of being right; trashing science is enough for many fundamentalists, after they&#8217;ve already made up their mind based on the faith they were spoon-fed by their families and culture.</p>
<p>The best response would might be to tell the itinerant Christian brainwashed would-be brainwashers about the truth of Hinduism/Polytheism/whatever. It makes as much sense as their mythology.</p>
<p>You can also hit them with biblical contradictions, which are legion. The door-to-door people you meet will likely not be well-versed in the bible, but it might give them something to think about in the future.</p>
<p>Rather than wasting their time knocking on doors, the proselytizers could be out doing good works (feeding the hungry, clothing the poor, etc.). That is, if they weren&#8217;t hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Gomez</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-54</link>
		<dc:creator>Lori Gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 16:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;What I was thinking, and what I said:

Simply, “This conversation is over.”

I’d rather concede. Whatever was going on anywhere else, absolutely much more relevant than whether I come from a Biblical God. Full disclosure. I apologize. Jesus is not my homeboy.

God: The conversation I don’t feel like having.&quot;

Hahaha... Only it wasn&#039;t over, was it?
It never will be... but you &amp; I agree that at that level of commitment, speaking to someone who is so deeply entrenched in his own perception of reality is simply a waste of energy, so unproductive, so why not move on... ;)

I could write a blog myself right here, right now on your beautiful mind &amp; how I adore your thought processes, but you require no such stroking!

Excellent, excellent write, my fine young cannibal.
Amusing, isn&#039;t it?

I mean when people do not want to REALLY discuss the possibilities of another way of believing or disbelieving, when all of their responses are rote &amp; when you challenge to move beyond their scripted thoughts, they become irate. Actually, scratch that... it&#039;s not interesting .... it&#039;s saddening. 

xoxox</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What I was thinking, and what I said:</p>
<p>Simply, “This conversation is over.”</p>
<p>I’d rather concede. Whatever was going on anywhere else, absolutely much more relevant than whether I come from a Biblical God. Full disclosure. I apologize. Jesus is not my homeboy.</p>
<p>God: The conversation I don’t feel like having.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hahaha&#8230; Only it wasn&#8217;t over, was it?<br />
It never will be&#8230; but you &amp; I agree that at that level of commitment, speaking to someone who is so deeply entrenched in his own perception of reality is simply a waste of energy, so unproductive, so why not move on&#8230; <img src='http://eatingcannibal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I could write a blog myself right here, right now on your beautiful mind &amp; how I adore your thought processes, but you require no such stroking!</p>
<p>Excellent, excellent write, my fine young cannibal.<br />
Amusing, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I mean when people do not want to REALLY discuss the possibilities of another way of believing or disbelieving, when all of their responses are rote &amp; when you challenge to move beyond their scripted thoughts, they become irate. Actually, scratch that&#8230; it&#8217;s not interesting &#8230;. it&#8217;s saddening. </p>
<p>xoxox</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 15:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 13:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Christians absolutely perform a lot of good in the world.  But it&#039;s also true (Christopher Hitchens made this point) that Hamas provides social services in Gaza, and Farrakhan&#039;s group gets young, black men in prison off drugs...that doesn&#039;t alter the fact that the one is a militarised, terrorist organization with a fanatical anti-Semitic ideology, and the second is a racist, crackpot cult.  

All sorts of organizations can point to the positive things that they offer the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Christians absolutely perform a lot of good in the world.  But it&#8217;s also true (Christopher Hitchens made this point) that Hamas provides social services in Gaza, and Farrakhan&#8217;s group gets young, black men in prison off drugs&#8230;that doesn&#8217;t alter the fact that the one is a militarised, terrorist organization with a fanatical anti-Semitic ideology, and the second is a racist, crackpot cult.  </p>
<p>All sorts of organizations can point to the positive things that they offer the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Tree63fan</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>Tree63fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 19:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like your writing style, maybe not the language use, but the style is great.
It is interesting how Christians get labeled by only the negative things that occur.  I would propose that if all the positive news were reported there would be no time for the negative.
It’s also an interesting dilemma that in Christianity and other religions it’s taught that we are sinners, or more simply, we do bad things by nature.  So, to then be stormed by this fact that we all mess up, and try to use negative news to show that religion is bad or corrupt is disingenuous at best.  Why?  Because we are ALL corrupt in some manner…those that have faith have accepted that truth and the teaching that we can be forgiven by the Creator through faith.  Of course, from the Christian perspective, the “faith” surrounds the belief in the act of Jesus dying (paying for) our sins/corruption.  There are many people out there that say they are Christian, but they are not.

Next, the act of worship is more aptly viewed as gratitude for the gift of Creation, etc and...  Worship of God from the Christian perspective recognizes two main things:
1) all of Creation (take a look at a starry night sky, or travel to some National Parks, “the heavens declare the glory of God”)
2) the free gift offered by a Creator who seemingly would have no need to “care” about one piece of His Creation, yet it’s declared that God does care and he actually became like man in order to “validate” the payment for our sins.

Last, the gentleman that came to your door seemed to miss a few simple points he could have made, and then he could have politely moved on.  As a Christian I get frustrated with like minded people who somehow want to “force” conversions.  God does the conversion, not man.  This man also made an incredibly incorrect statement regarding, “living lives God approves of…”  That has nothing to do with salvation.  Salvation is based on faith at the time of conversion.  Sure, your life after conversion may be full of “good” but that isn’t what saves you…it’s simply a product of conversion.  What if you place your faith in God and are converted after 10 years of being a child abuser, then you get hit by a car an hour later….There wouldn’t be much “life” for God to approve of there…

Anyway, thank you for allowing such a long comment.  Just thought I would add to the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your writing style, maybe not the language use, but the style is great.<br />
It is interesting how Christians get labeled by only the negative things that occur.  I would propose that if all the positive news were reported there would be no time for the negative.<br />
It’s also an interesting dilemma that in Christianity and other religions it’s taught that we are sinners, or more simply, we do bad things by nature.  So, to then be stormed by this fact that we all mess up, and try to use negative news to show that religion is bad or corrupt is disingenuous at best.  Why?  Because we are ALL corrupt in some manner…those that have faith have accepted that truth and the teaching that we can be forgiven by the Creator through faith.  Of course, from the Christian perspective, the “faith” surrounds the belief in the act of Jesus dying (paying for) our sins/corruption.  There are many people out there that say they are Christian, but they are not.</p>
<p>Next, the act of worship is more aptly viewed as gratitude for the gift of Creation, etc and&#8230;  Worship of God from the Christian perspective recognizes two main things:<br />
1) all of Creation (take a look at a starry night sky, or travel to some National Parks, “the heavens declare the glory of God”)<br />
2) the free gift offered by a Creator who seemingly would have no need to “care” about one piece of His Creation, yet it’s declared that God does care and he actually became like man in order to “validate” the payment for our sins.</p>
<p>Last, the gentleman that came to your door seemed to miss a few simple points he could have made, and then he could have politely moved on.  As a Christian I get frustrated with like minded people who somehow want to “force” conversions.  God does the conversion, not man.  This man also made an incredibly incorrect statement regarding, “living lives God approves of…”  That has nothing to do with salvation.  Salvation is based on faith at the time of conversion.  Sure, your life after conversion may be full of “good” but that isn’t what saves you…it’s simply a product of conversion.  What if you place your faith in God and are converted after 10 years of being a child abuser, then you get hit by a car an hour later….There wouldn’t be much “life” for God to approve of there…</p>
<p>Anyway, thank you for allowing such a long comment.  Just thought I would add to the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Busybooklover</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>Busybooklover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 01:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGfnJnNUX8  

I want this guy at my door when they come knocking.. 

And, by the way-- AWESOME site... RSS feed subscribed ;)~  

*Waiting for what Trafalz said to happen, sort of???  O.o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGfnJnNUX8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBGfnJnNUX8</a>  </p>
<p>I want this guy at my door when they come knocking.. </p>
<p>And, by the way&#8211; AWESOME site&#8230; RSS feed subscribed <img src='http://eatingcannibal.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> ~  </p>
<p>*Waiting for what Trafalz said to happen, sort of???  O.o</p>
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		<title>By: Sex Mahoney</title>
		<link>http://eatingcannibal.com/index.php/2009/03/god-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>Sex Mahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 19:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People have also turned to group sex to help them get off drugs. I&#039;m willing to pray to gangbangs.

Sex Mahoney for President</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People have also turned to group sex to help them get off drugs. I&#8217;m willing to pray to gangbangs.</p>
<p>Sex Mahoney for President</p>
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